What's Spamming?

Where's CosT?

Am I reading it right? I think the guy is saying that his friend is NOT Beaver, but is actually a friend in his alliance (#14) that hit Beaver (a land farm) and was suspended for attacking a landfarm. (Or deleted, not sure, the dude doesnt speak very clearly)

Or I could be wrong also. Idk. :o

You're White :o

“0 defense” is just an expression meaning “too little defense relative to size.”

I wasn't involved in the incident at all, so I had no way of knowing how much actual defense the tribe had, but it was little enough to make that tribe a farm.

No one in the game normally runs 40 DPA. You have to have at least 300 in most cases. That's how you know it's a land farm.

I released all military because i wanted to quit but then i had buildings coming in.

I run 140 DPA, cause I'm a G.

i think imogi is a player who needs very specific rules and regulations. using general statements as “within reasonable standards” is simply just to vague for him even though most of us would understand that anything below 100DPA is highly suspicious.

Also, assuming that what he said is true on the part that he was simply banned/suspended without being notified what was happening or not being given a chance to explain himself is actions i think the staff could look into. Well, at least give a day's buffer time to explain and stuff you know? not too difficult is it? Generally i have no complaints about staff, you guys do a pretty good job

Ki Imogi I guess it's just tough luck, but if a player decides to “release all military because buildings are coming in,” which doesnt make any sense to me, it is considered landfarming. It is not fair if a tribe reaps the benefit of another tribe deciding to give up and quit...its against the CoC...for better or for worse

i did something like that once while i was young and fresh like i still am

i released all my troops and was about to press the delete button and then found i sent thieves out or something like that

needless to say i made a lot of people quite happy and got spanked by martel for it :|

^ What BEAVER should have done. We just don't delete easily. I've moved the tribe to 10 to be assured nobody else could grab this landfarm. After that I messaged LnO to give a suspension(pausemode) to this tribe since I can't do that myself. I've also messaged the elder of 25 about the situation.

You can say all you want even I have admit, the underlined part makes it pretty clear what the crime was.


I think this rule is a bit outdated, nobody except Martel has the power to remove acres from someone which means it will rarely be the LnO punishment. Instead it's a (minor) suspension.


I don't expect everyone to know the entire CoC but we can't just let people do whatever they want only because they say either “I didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that” or “It wasn't on purpose”.

It not being 0 DPA even made it more suspicious for the tribe who grabbed. Would Beaver had released everything chances would have been a lot more people grabbing, even explorers. Would beaver had released less the attacker in question wouldn't have been able to grab Beaver with his or her “spare” off specs.

missread, read banned as deletetion...

You also have to consider that there was an unofficial war going on between these two alliances. An agreement between those two tribes would be highly unlikely.
I agree with acwder. When L&O is investigating co-ops, you always check if there was any communication between the alliances. And if there's none, you always declare that there's no co-op. How come it's not the same in this case?

In my opinion it's mainly about using(over 1k acres gained) and not reporting the landfarm.

where did coop come in? o.0

The tribe admitted releasing her military because she wanted to quit. It's her mistake, not the attacker's. It's not like she was doing it for several days giving land to everyone.

I mentioned coop just for comparison halcyon.

oh ok xD

If the attacker reported that beaver had released most of her defense things would of been different. but he didn't

A 5.7k tribe with 38DPA is a landfarm



And i gave the smallest suspension i could give

If you look at it another way and if he had his acres expropriated instead of a punishment he would of been the same size as when he attacked but with a 12hr suspension he is 1.4k bigger and has only lost 12hrs resources. But if ever in the near future Martel was to give L&O the chance to expropriated acres in these cases then expropriated acres will be used instead of suspension.

Also repeat violation of attacking a landfarm with out a report will result in longer suspension

So basically it's worth it to surpass CoC :(

I admit this is the first time I've read the CoC. lol... I think the definition of landfarming does not apply in this case. That was not the sole purpose of the tribe's existence.

“[Landfarming: Where the sole purpose of a tribe's existence is to provide acreage to another tribe(s) at little or no expense and/or effort to the tribe taking the land. Releasing defense rendering your tribe vulnerable to standard attacks from tribes outside a reasonable range than should be expected is indicative of landfarming.]”

But I'm not arguing any further because the CoC also says:

“We are not obligated to send users a warning before deleting any content or account. At all times the admin's word is final.”

and

“You agree to periodically review this document to ensure you are doing your part.”

So there...

well the tribe in question did say deletion was on the plan and only troop out prevented the user from doing so



seems to fit here :P

uhhh... they intended to quit, but couldn't, so they DELETED their military and abandoned the tribe.. after that it's sole purpose remaining was to be a resource/landfarm.. if you hit it, notice its a land farm, and report it, it seems staff would be nice enough to let you keep your land and be thankful you reported it. if you notice it, hit it, and don't say anything, the only logical reason is because you intend to keep abusing it...

point is just report landfarms when you see it, staff may notice it quickly, but not quickly enough to prevent people from gaining most times.

if you do your part and help by reporting these, orkfia will be better for all of us.

~aqua

I still don't see the reason why you would release your military if you intend to quit anyway. It's really very well possible to delete or reset your account while running full military.

If it's for the soldiers to put in the market, you could at least make sure to have no military out. Being a landfarm will help your enemies more than your allies, no matter how much sollies you had xD