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Fiologist, February 2010, edited

I would be interested to know how barracks fit into the game. I know that they house military % thus making room for citizens. Also the % built will lessen training costs. The real qustion is weather they are better than mines for producing cash or should they be built only for a large pump or to have mor space during a KA.


WarGeneral, February 2010

mines give more cash, dont forget more citz = more food. so for income, go for a mix of 40% yards 60% mines (i mean, split them like that, dont go for that literally ofc)

their main scope is for you to have cheaper training... but yeah they're nice to have in a KA. would still go for TM protection in a KA though imo...


Morbid, February 2010

calculate and compare how much tax you earn per citz(with 20% Barracks),and how much crowns you produce with mines(with 0 Barracks)..that way you can figure out which is best or it may also be better to give some percentage to both..all depends on your strat.

Again,more citz require more food,so you might be using some acres for extra farms.[;)]


Chonka, February 2010

I [heart] Spirit.


Morbid, February 2010

so what do spirits eat?(words from the Bible)


mastah, February 2010

fiolol [heart]


HaRRy, February 2010

White Dragon
Isn't it more fun to calc it yourself?[:p]


Termato., February 2010

HaRRy knows where it's @ :D


WayHigh, February 2010, edited

i did some math a few weeks ago and it seem your fame make all the difference with barrackes

at 25k fame barrackes made me about 420-425cr per tick not counting the saving from cheaper military

all tho i never took food in to count

Yards FTW ! :P


Acwder, February 2010

I have no idea why WH would think that fame effects Barracks in any way..


Bolle, February 2010

I find Acwders point highly accurate.


Hoffie, February 2010

I think Bolle is on the ball for once ;)


Apaullo, February 2010

dont mind WH, hes on his usual self, just smoked too much weed


Wolfbrother, February 2010

So is he still just Way High, or Way too High?


WayHigh, February 2010, edited

what i should have said in my first post
i did some math a few weeks ago and it seem your fame make all the difference with the amount of CR barrackes produce

if you get 200000 city from barrackes and you have 25kfame you then get 250000 city from barrackes

or is that wrong ???


do the math city from barrackes + fame =cr + Quanta +Military Upkeep savings = what barrackes produce each tick
thats at 100 citys per 1 barrack witch seem to be the amount for most races


Apaullo, February 2010

ahh i get it :P yep fame does affect citz, it gives bonus to it :)

i thought u meant fame gives bonus to barrax alone which does not :)

and ur still HIGH :P


Acwder, February 2010

Once again you're wrong WH.

Barracks only hold a fix number of units.

It will hold the same ammount of units no matter what fame you got

Quote

Each barracks holds up to 100 offense specs/thieves, 75 elites or 50 defense specs



WayHigh, February 2010, edited

who is this not clear in my second post ?

what i should have said in my first post
i did some math a few weeks ago and it seem your fame make all the difference with the amount of CR barrackes produce

yes the amount they hold is the same that not what im saying !!!!!


i was responding to the first post
The real qustion is weather they are better than mines for producing cash

so stop bashing me and look at my point

im rite :P


Joe, February 2010, edited

Barracks don't produce crowns? They only hold military and reduce training and maintenance cost of them?

And of course by taking up military they give extra citizens... But that bonus isn't influenced by fame really. Having a big fame actually makes the bonus smaller because many citz makes a highcitz/smallmilitary ratio by themselves and barracks can make that evenhighercitz/smallmilitary. But that's a smaller change comparatively than a change from highmilitary/lowcitz to normalmilitary/normalcitz by building barracks.

/edit I'm not trying to bash you.. Rather trying to understand your point since if it's true I of course want to get 25k fame too asap :D


Halcyon, February 2010

yards always produce the most creds

with barracks i don't use them unless i need the citz for survival reasons rather than for income. i'm too lazy to even use them for pumps unless it's really big, as the construction cost + lost income from yards for 8 hrs more often than not comes very close to the 10% training cost you save anyway


Acwder, February 2010

wtf the retard is right.

1 barrack holds as we know 100 off specs / thieves.

When built that allows another 100 citz to live in your tribe. Those 100 citz that now lives in the homes or w/e is actually effected by the fame and pop bonus.

Works the same for markets, just check it out yourselves.

I thought WH was so out of order I bashed him in the alli chan. Bloody hell he seems to be right for once^^


WayHigh, February 2010, edited

Thanks acwder ! well kinda :P


Joe, February 2010

Oh I see yeah... Famebonus does apply to 'other buildings' and 'markets/barracks' as well as homes.. Didn't notice that yet.. Thanks =)


WayHigh, February 2010

yeah i may be high all the time but im not retarded [;)]


Joe, February 2010

Still don't see how barracks would give more than 440 crowns though (as mines does).

25k famebonus + elendian = .35 modifier total. 100*1.35*2 = 270 crowns
Reduced military maintenance gives with my current military about 70 crowns per barracks so makes 340 crowns total. But still 100 crowns short for 440 (and I don't have 25k fame alas).
To save those 100 crowns by training troops one would need to train troops worth 1000 crowns per barracks you have (so for a 10k tribe with 2k barracks you need to train 2 mill worth of troops each tick.. i.e. need a income over 2 mill)


WayHigh, February 2010

joe you missed 1 thing the Quanta bounus to taxes

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